Thought I'd post this here so all can see what's going on.. BEFORE its deleted on the Aeria forums like one other one was.
The begining I started a thread a couple days ago called {SGST}Compromise and in this thread as you'll see, I was attacked for an idea I believe to be relevant to the gaming community.
During the course of arguing over a point of principle (whether or not the Eghee fee was a goldsink or not.. or whether or not the so called Gold sink was working) the thread was hijacked for a few posts so that my debaters talked amoungst themselves.
A "game" threat was made by alexiesm
- Quote :
- : "hmm u wanna me mad gimme ur server and im gone kill ya"
which started the flames.
This person who became "unable" to hold an intelligent conversation and who I feel was losing his arguement big time, resorted to flaming my thread.
This individual repeated another threat later in the same thread so at that time I asked that the thread be locked due to it deteriorating into a flame war.
Post was locked. Flamers win when posts get locked.
Harassment Spreads Either earlier or shortly after I made the above mentioned thread I had made another suggestion which was completey different and at the same time neither had a response.
{SGST}Armour/Weapon Trader
In this thread the same individuals who "teamed up" in the last thread which caused its shutdown arrived to trash this other suggestion.
It had nothing to do with the previous suggestion. It was about a completely different and seperate topic.
Isador, alexiesim, Kay666, and a person named jep (who will become important later in another thread reguarding an internet threat of violence)
Once again.. alexiesim has to go and make a mockery of the thread and out of frustration over the previous locking.. again.. in the spirit of trying to stay peaceful I asked a MOD to close the thread.
Locked
After thinking about it a while.. I realized that no one wanted a "compromise" (first thread) so I'd have to get tough to show everyone how unjust the current situation is with the Egehe map.
With this thinking in mind I created {SGST} Egehe fee extended and proceeded to ask for votes.
Again.. alexiesim and Isador show up and this time they are joined by sprky, bossmtking, and pancakes
They try to turn the process into a mockery and the debate gets so hot Superman0X has to lock the thread.
Again.. flamers cause a thread of mine to be locked.
A New start with a new thread After a seriously hot debate in ShoutBox which included GM's Superman0X, GMMoose, and a handful of assorted game sages and forum mods, I was advised by GM Moose that I should maybe redo the thread that was shut down with a "better tone" and avoid argueing.. just let them vote and be done.
Fine.
I did. I worked a couple hours making sure every word was spelled right and everything looked presentable so that my arguement is better understood.
This is what I came up: {SGST} Egehe Poll reguarding fees
Of course the following show up to make yet another mockery of it:
alexiesim, Isador, pancakes, sprky, and a game sage who had laughed at a flame (which I believe was deleted)
I tracked down OSUBeaver and requested him to monitor the thread as a "Forum Mod" ought to do and make sure that it's not destroyed by being locked down like the others.
He posted a warning at the end of the thread.
Everything seemed fine...
HARASSMENT UNBOUND Two threads were started by the parties against me in the above mentioned threads:
1: [SGST] Forums silence
Participating in this discussion were the same people who had been following me around causing trouble in the above threads:
Isador (the thread starter), alexiesim, bossmtking, and pancakes
I believe this thread was aimed at myself although my name was not mentioned. I view this as a "campaign" to deflect their own hostility and flames against me and also to put the idea into the mods heads to silence any voice they disagree with.
2.[SGST] There are more than the two options suggested
This thread was "disgused" as a "Suggestion thread" yet had no resemblence of a suggestion at all. It did not conform at all to the "Suggestion Guidelines" laid down by Gm Viet and upheld by the community.
In fact, it violated the TOS by using a "false topic" with the words SGST in it when all it is, is a flame thread which directly attacked me by name and also included an "internet threat of violence"
The mere suggestion of causing harm to any individual as a form of punishment is a violation of a few laws somewhere I'm sure not to mention the possible violation of Aeria's TOS and the forum rules as well.
jep (one of the above mentioned troublemakers) said the following which is still there for all to see:
- Quote :
- want my opinion? no? TOO BAD!
donkey should be banned from the forums and/or have a finger chopped off for every time he made the same or similar posts about the egeha fees. there i said what are you going to do about it?!
As far as this writing I know of nothing that has been done to this person in any way shape of form in the way of punishment.
When I saw the threat and the post which attacked me in name, I felt a human right to defend myself and to let them know I was reporting their harassment.
Below are the only two posts I made in the above mentioned thread:
- Quote :
- So is this a "suggestion" or a flaming rant disguised as a suggestion?
I didn't see a real suggestion here.
Perhaps its just another attempt by a select little group of people to continue some harassment
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Its straightforward and is not a flame. I point out to everyone who can read that the person who made the thread has
not made a suggestion at all but merely a flame thread in which to spew forth hate.
My second post was to address the individual who made a threat of violence suggestion towards me:
- Quote :
- Re: want my opinion? no? TOO BAD!
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jep wrote:
donkey should be banned from the forums and/or have a finger chopped off for every time he made the same or similar posts about the egeha fees. there i said what are you going to do about it?!
Threats of violence being suggested against me doesn't make you a saint.
Im reporting this threat as a violation of the TOS... that's what Im gonna do about it
I didn't call him any names. I didn't flame him. I simply addressed that I won't tolerate being threatened.
This guy has basically suggested that a forum mod or a game master track me down in real life and exact that form of punishment upon me in order to silence me from something he disagrees with.
Not silence me for any flaming...
Not silence me for any insults I might have said...
But to silence me from typing my opinion and speaking my mind.
This is LastChaos USA... not LastChaosCUBA.. or LastChaosChina.. or LastChaosNorthKorea whereas any of those locations may suppress a free mind...
It is implied that although these forums are privately run, that we are allowed (and encouraged) to express freedom of speech here without threat of violence.
In spite of all the principles on my side.. I learned today, that "OSUBeaver" a forum mod, had a secret pact with the starter of that thread that if "I" wrote one thing in it... he would punish me by shutting down my "non aggressive thread" Here
I feel this thread was a good job in trying to remain objectionable and I even made a request to have it "mod'd" so it would
not errupt into any flame war.
I wanted the votes to be tallied and my guild didn't even get a chance to respond to it.
To shut down
another thread for making a defensive comment on another thread is a precident in which I've never seen on any forum.
I've been on over 500 + forums in my life and this is the first time I've seen a forum mod retaliate into another thread which was attempting to remain peaceful.
I've nothing else to say. Its a sad day